MCCAIN’S TREASONOUS SMOKING GUN FINALLY SURFACES

Donald Trump had it right the first time. Now he needs to denounce this traitor and keep him away from the campaign.

Breaking News: John McCain’s 1969 “Tokyo Rose” Propaganda Recording Released Showing he WAS a Traitor who Turned Against His Own Country

Breaking News: John McCain’s 1969 “Tokyo Rose” Propaganda Recording Released Showing he WAS a Traitor who Turned Against His Own Country

The “Songbird” Traitor, Doing His Fake Hero Act, Begins His Rise to Power

An audio recording has surfaced proving that U.S. Senator John McCain collaborated with the North Vietnamese by recording a “Tokyo Rose”-style propaganda message that was broadcast on North Vietnamese radio in 1969.

For many years, American former P.O.W.s who were in the “Hanoi Hilton” North Vietnamese prison with John McCain called him a “Songbird” who collaborated with the enemy against his own country. They accused him of turning against them and against his own country in exchange for preferential treatment while many of the actually brave and honorable American P.O.W.s endured torture and denial of medical care and food for refusing to collaborate. The P.O.W.s branded McCain a traitor who was no hero, but nonetheless used his fake hero status to rise to political power.

But we only had their word against his – until now. Now, from the U.S. National Archives comes the proof of their allegations; McCain, by his own words, WAS in fact a traitor who collaborated with the enemy by recording a “Tokyo Rose” statement condemning his own nation by admitting “crimes” against the North Vietnamese people, stating “I, as a U.S. airman, am guilty of crimes against the Vietnamese country and people.” McCain’s recorded statement also painted a picture of humane treatment of prisoners even though he knew many of his fellow Americans were being tortured and denied medical care and adequate food. In the recording he is heard to say “I received this kind treatment and food even though I came here as an aggressor and the people who I injured have much difficulty in their living standards. I wish to express my deep gratitude for my kind treatment and I will never forget this kindness extended to me.”

Watch this, and listen to the recording yourself:

John McCain, Traitor and Songbird, sings for his masters

Several years ago, I (Stewart Rhodes) was attacked by the left wing media for calling McCain a traitor who deserved to be tried for treason, and then, once convicted, deserved to suffer the usual punishment for someone convicted of treason, which is to be hung by the neck until dead. Turns out I was right. He IS a traitor, and now there is direct evidence to back that up, in addition to his horrid voting record against the Constitution. Well, now, can we finally try him for treason and then sentence him accordingly? Or will he, like Hillary Clinton, get a pass on his crimes despite direct, smoking gun evidence, because both of them are part of the political elite? You already know the answer to that.

Truenews.com is to be commended for their work in making this recording public, after all these years. Here is what they have to say about this:

(TRUNEWS) U.S. Senator John McCain recorded a Tokyo Rose-style propaganda message that was broadcast on North Vietnamese radio in 1969.

TRUNEWS acquired the audio recording in cooperation with WeSearchR.com, a new media company founded by Charles Johnson.

The 1969 North Vietnamese radio broadcast has never been heard in the United States of America. In fact, there has never been any knowledge that such a recording existed. The audio recording was found in a misplaced file in the National Archives in Washington, D.C. The broadcast was recorded by the Foreign Broadcast Information Service, a branch of the CIA that monitored international shortwave and foreign radio broadcasts.

Lt. Commander John McCain was shot down over Hanoi by a North Vietnamese missile while flying his 23rd bombing mission. Both of his arms and one leg were broken. He was pulled ashore by North Vietnamese who took him to a prison known by POWs as the “Hanoi Hilton.”

McCain was a prisoner of war for five and a half years. He was released on March 14, 1973, and returned to the United States of America as a war hero. His POW legacy propelled McCain to victory in a race for a U.S. Congressional seat in Arizona in 1982. He replaced Barry Goldwater in the Senate in 1986.

– See more at: http://www.trunews.com/article/john-mccains-1969-tokyo-rose-propaganda-recording-released#sthash.JAKZReP3.HpuKMBBb.dpuf

Read more here.

Here is a transcript of the recording:

To the Vietnamese people and the government of the DRVN:

From John Sidney McCain, 624787, Lieutenant Commander, U.S. Navy, born 29 August, 1936, Panama, home state Oregon. Shot down 26 October, 1967, A-4E aircraft.

I, as a U.S. airman, am guilty of crimes against the Vietnamese country and people. I bombed their cities, towns and villages and caused many injuries, even deaths, for the people of Vietnam.

I was captured in the capital city of Hanoi, while attacking it. After I was captured, I was taken to the hospital in Hanoi, where I received very good medical treatment. I was given an operation on my leg, which allowed me to walk again, and a cast on my right arm, which was badly broken in three places.

The doctors were very good and they knew a great deal about the practice of medicine. I remained in the hospital for some time and regained much of my health and strength. Since I arrived in the camp of detention, I received humane and lenient treatment.

I received this kind treatment and food even though I came here as an aggressor and the people who I injured have much difficulty in their living standards. I wish to express my deep gratitude for my kind treatment and I will never forget this kindness extended to me.

– See more at: http://www.trunews.com/article/john-mccains-1969-tokyo-rose-propaganda-recording-released#sthash.JAKZReP3.HpuKMBBb.dpuf

Note that Trunews.com reports that “the broadcast was recorded by the Foreign Broadcast Information Service, a branch of the CIA that monitored international shortwave and foreign radio broadcasts.” So, the CIA, our supposed Central Intelligence Agency, knew that he was a traitor. Did they report that bit of intelligence to President Nixon? Did they inform the Joint Chief of Staff? Did they even notify McCain’s command? Again, you already know the answer to that. What they did is sit on it, and no doubt they “misfiled” it in the National Archives, and let McCain know they had it there, somewhere, and that they could have the “misfiling” corrected anytime they wanted, so he would be compliant and do as commanded throughout his career.  That is how it is done.   They had McCain under their control, as a “Manchurian Candidate” from that moment on, which is why it was kept an internal CIA secret all those years, till now.

I have to wonder if the CIA didn’t just now determine to throw McCain to the wolves for some reason.  I’d be curious to know how Truenews.com and friends found the recording.  Were they given an “anonymous tip?” Regardless, McCain’s goose is now good and cooked. If he had a shred of honor he would resign, but no doubt he will try to find a way to worm out of this. But I don’t think it will work. Not this time. And those who recently sided with him against Trump, such as Newt Gingrich, are now on the side of a confirmed Traitor. Again, perfect timing for an implosion of the corrupt GOP Old Guard. Interesting. You can bet Trump will use this to full effect.

– Stewart Rhodes

 

UPDATE AND ADDENDUM:

Since I am getting comments condemning me for calling McCain a traitor for collaborating with the enemy by recording that propaganda broadcast for the North Vietnamese, here is my response:

First, here is what the Code of Conduct says about this (I have highlighted in bold the most pertinent sections):

Code of Conduct for Members of the United States Armed Forces[3][4][5]
I. I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.
II. I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.
III. If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.
IV. If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.
V. When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause
VI. I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.

It really goes without saying that this recording shows that McCain violated that Code of Conduct. Doing so was not excusable because of the “duress” he was under. In fact, the same folks who dug this recording up also say they have his own statements to show he was not under duress: http://gotnews.com/breaking-senjohnmccain-not-duress-north-vietnam-blabbed-military-info-voiced-communist-propaganda/

Even if he were actually under duress, that would not absolve him of his duty to “make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.” Nor does it absolve him of his duty to “accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy“ which is exactly what the other POWs accused McCain of doing.

Medal of Honor recipient James Stockdale, in contrast to McCain, was actually brutally tortured and still refused to collaborate with the enemy. Let’s compare and contrast his actions to that of McCain:

Stockdale was held as a prisoner of war in the Hoa Lo prison (the infamous “Hanoi Hilton”) for the next seven and a half years. As the senior Naval officer, he was one of the primary organizers of prisoner resistance. Tortured routinely and denied medical attention for the severely damaged leg he suffered during capture, Stockdale created and enforced a code of conduct for all prisoners which governed torture, secret communications, and behavior. In the summer of 1969, he was locked in leg irons in a bath stall and routinely tortured and beaten. When told by his captors that he was to be paraded in public, Stockdale slit his scalp with a razor to purposely disfigure himself so that his captors could not use him as propaganda. When they covered his head with a hat, he beat himself with a stool until his face was swollen beyond recognition. When Stockdale was discovered with information that could implicate his friends’ “black activities,” he slit his wrists so they could not torture him into confession.

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Stockdale was one of eleven prisoners known as the “Alcatraz Gang“: George Thomas Coker; George McKnight; Jeremiah Denton; Harry Jenkins; Sam Johnson; James Mulligan; Howard Rutledge; Robert Shumaker; Ronald Storz; and Nels Tanner. These individuals had been leaders of resistance activities while in captivity and thus were separated from other captives and placed in solitary confinement. “Alcatraz” was a special facility in a courtyard behind the North Vietnamese Ministry of National Defense, located about one mile away from Hoa Lo Prison. In Alcatraz, each of the prisoners was kept in an individual windowless and concrete cell measuring 3 by 9 feet (0.9 by 2.7 m) with a light bulb kept on around the clock, and they were locked in leg irons each night.[9][10][11][12][13] Of the eleven, Storz died in captivity there in 1970.

In a business book by James C. Collins called Good to Great, Collins writes about a conversation he had with Stockdale regarding his coping strategy during his period in the Vietnamese POW camp.[14]

I never lost faith in the end of the story, I never doubted not only that I would get out, but also that I would prevail in the end and turn the experience into the defining event of my life, which, in retrospect, I would not trade.[15]

When Collins asked who didn’t make it out of Vietnam, Stockdale replied:

Oh, that’s easy, the optimists. Oh, they were the ones who said, ‘We’re going to be out by Christmas.’ And Christmas would come, and Christmas would go. Then they’d say, ‘We’re going to be out by Easter.’ And Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving, and then it would be Christmas again. And they died of a broken heart.[15]

Stockdale then added:

This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.[15]

 

Stockdale was released as a prisoner of war on February 12, 1973 during Operation Homecoming. His shoulders had been wrenched from their sockets, his leg shattered by angry villagers and a torturer, and his back broken.

On March 4, 1976, Stockdale received the Medal of Honor. Stockdale filed charges against two other officers (Marine Corps Lieutenant Colonel Edison W. Miller and Navy Captain Walter E. “Gene” Wilber) who, he felt, had given aid and comfort to the enemy. However, the Navy Department under the leadership of then-Secretary of the Navy John Warner took no action and retired these men “in the best interests of the Navy.”[16][17]

Debilitated by his captivity and mistreatment, Stockdale could not stand upright and could barely walk upon his return to the United States, which prevented his return to active flying status. In deference to his previous service, the Navy kept him on active duty, steadily promoting him over the next few years before he retired as a vice admiral. He completed his career by serving as President of the Naval War College from October 13, 1977, until August 22, 1979.

 

And here is Stockdale’s Medal of Honor Citation:

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while senior naval officer in the Prisoner of War camps of North Vietnam. Recognized by his captors as the leader in the Prisoners’ of War resistance to interrogation and in their refusal to participate in propaganda exploitation, Rear Adm. Stockdale was singled out for interrogation and attendant torture after he was detected in a covert communications attempt. Sensing the start of another purge, and aware that his earlier efforts at self-disfiguration to dissuade his captors from exploiting him for propaganda purposes had resulted in cruel and agonizing punishment, Rear Adm. Stockdale resolved to make himself a symbol of resistance regardless of personal sacrifice. He deliberately inflicted a near-mortal wound to his person in order to convince his captors of his willingness to give up his life rather than capitulate. He was subsequently discovered and revived by the North Vietnamese who, convinced of his indomitable spirit, abated in their employment of excessive harassment and torture toward all of the Prisoners of War. By his heroic action, at great peril to himself, he earned the everlasting gratitude of his fellow prisoners and of his country. Rear Adm. Stockdale’s valiant leadership and extraordinary courage in a hostile environment sustain and enhance the finest traditions of the U.S. Naval Service (emphasis added).

 

Now THAT is a hero. And that is also a stellar example of an officer who lead by example, and put the well being of his men first, above himself, and loyalty to his country first, above himself, and his actions directly saved his men from further torture, bolstered their morale, and likely saved lives – the exact opposite of McCain’s actions.  Please do not tell me that John McCain somehow deserves a “pass” for his behavior because of supposed duress (with all evidence pointing to him singing like a bird before suffering anything approaching what Stockdale endured) and when a real man, Stockdale, endured real duress, to say the least, and refused to submit and collaborate.  And please don’t try to tell me I have no right to condemn him unless I too was a POW.  Stockdale tried to press charges against two other officers who were POWs, for corroborating with the enemy, and I have no doubt he would have done the same with McCain had he known the full truth. And many of the men who did know the truth did their best to expose it, but were brushed aside and ignored because McCain’s daddy was an admiral and Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet.  Many of those men are now gone, and can no longer speak out.  So we will speak for them.

Here is what John McCain himself had to say about the Code of Conduct and the harm caused by prisoners that collaborated with the enemy:

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If he were just some poor Joe who endured hardship as a prisoner, I could understand and by sympathetic to him breaking under pressure and collaborating.  But he was not just some average Joe.  He was an Admiral’s son, and he rode a wave of propaganda of him being some kind of hero into Congress, and he has been there ever since, and because of his status as a “war hero” he has received deference, forgiveness for his repeated sins against the Constitution, and repeated reelection so he can violate it yet again, term after term.   He was no war hero.  A collaborator simply is not a hero.  He is, in fact, the opposite.  Maybe someone like that can be forgiven, or considered with sympathy, but he sure as hell should not be hailed as some kind of hero, or “national treasure” like Newt Gingrich just called McCain.  Stockdale was a real hero.  Calling McCain a hero cheapens that term.   And while for years people asserted that he made this recording, nobody has heard it, until now.  – Stewart Rhodes

ABOUT AUTHOR

Stewart Rhodes

Stewart Rhodes

Stewart is the founder and National President of Oath Keepers. He served as a U.S. Army paratrooper until disabled in a rough terrain parachuting accident during a night jump. He is a former firearms instructor, former member of Rep. Ron Paul’s DC staff, and served as a volunteer firefighter in Montana. Stewart previously wrote the monthly Enemy at the Gates column for S.W.A.T. Magazine. Stewart graduated from Yale Law School in 2004, where his paper “Solving the Puzzle of Enemy Combatant Status” won Yale’s Miller prize for best paper on the Bill of Rights. He assisted teaching U.S. military history at Yale, was a Yale Research Scholar, and is writing a book on the dangers of applying the laws of war to the American people.

COMMENTS

  1. LoneStarHog5 August, 2016, 15:59

    Information sent to the Dr. Kelli Ward Campaign Headquarters in Arizona. Now, will the MSM, especially in Arizona, cover the blockbuster story?

    LoneStarHog (Hog)
    Texas Life Member #140

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 16:29

      Thanks LoneStarHog!

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      • LoneStarHog5 August, 2016, 16:47

        FYI: Forwarded to The Drudge Report

        LoneStarHog (Hog)
        Texas Life Member #140

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        • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 17:14

          Thanks, and thanks again for letting me know about this recording. I do feel vindicated!

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          • cactusbob5 August, 2016, 18:44

            I dare say Trump will also feel vindicated for his comment regarding McCain’s getting captured. I hope this gives Kelli Ward’s campaign a big boost and retires McCain.

            I seem to recall stories about the torture and McCain was badly affected when his interrogators finally “broke him.” I wonder if any fellow guests at the Hanoi Hilton will report how many of the other “guests” were also “broken.” I’d guess that there are very few members of the American public (or the military) who could hold up to the sort of torture they faced, and it wasn’t just water boarding.

    • BIG JOHN5 August, 2016, 18:03

      COL. EARL HOPPER OF ARIZONA HAD MANY MORE RECORDINGS OF MCCAIN ON RADIO HANOI.

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      • 1860RidesAgain5 August, 2016, 18:38

        Yes he did. Earl lost his son, an F 4 USAF pilot in VN in ’68. He headed up Task Force Omega’s efforts here in AZ. Stewart has support from a number of good men through the recent years.

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    • BobM6 August, 2016, 07:23

      “Hot Dog Johnny” would have been BOOTED from the Navy if it weren’t for the TWO admirals in his family tree.If it takes the “RIGHT STUFF” to be a “naval aviator” his having it is “questionable”. Read all about it. http://www.pythiapress.com/wartales/McCain-Shootdown.htm

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  2. Chip5 August, 2016, 16:19

    WOW! Makes perfect sense when you think about his disgraceful attacks against “Constitution-loving” Americans. Great work Stewart!

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 18:49

      Actually, credit goes to Gotnews.com and Truenews.com as well as Wesearchr.com, for digging it up.

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  3. Elias Alias5 August, 2016, 16:24

    This article timestamped, posted, and sent to Oath Keepers’ full email list at 4:30 pm MTN Standard Time, August 05, 2016.

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    • MarkOwen5 August, 2016, 19:26

      What happened to my comment? You had no business deleting it! I am a member of Oathkeepers #024947 since 2013 paid up till 2018. Mark Owen Goulette is my name. US Navy 1970 to 1974. Little Creek Amphib Base and Counterinsurgency School.

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      • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 22:20

        Not sure what you mean. I didn’t delete any comment. Please resubmit it. Elias, did you delete a comment by this gent?

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        • Elias Alias5 August, 2016, 22:40

          Stewart,
          I checked earlier when I posted this one by him. I looked in the trash bin and in the spam folder, but found nothing from him there. I looked just in case Shorty may have deleted one of his posts. If he is missing a post, it’s not in our system. I did find another post of his, somewhere on this thread. I would like to mention that sometimes both Shorty and I are away at the same time, and sometimes comments are delayed because of that.
          Salute!
          Elias Alias, editor

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  4. Jim5 August, 2016, 17:01

    Donald Trump was Right from the beginning McCain is a Traitor to the enemy and his fellow prisoners of war, and ultimately to the American people. He needs to retire and avoid the discrace he has brought to our Nation.

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 17:13

      Yep, he was. Of course, all Trump did was state what was already well known among us veterans. But at least he had the balls to say it.

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    • MarkOwen5 August, 2016, 19:11

      Right on Trump was right all along. His dad was an Admiral too, claims he could have got out of the Hilton early because of daddy but stayed because the other pilots weren’t allowed to go. Fact is he was being coddled by the North Vietnamese, even they called him the songbird. He will never face charges, He’s one of the political elite like Hitlary. Commit all the crimes you want to against We The People, there won’t be any consequences! What a crock!

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  5. Cal5 August, 2016, 17:06

    “Well, now, can we finally try him for treason and then sentence him accordingly? Or will he, like Hillary Clinton, get a pass on his crimes despite direct, smoking gun evidence, because both of them are part of the political elite? ”

    I am ignoring your sentence after this one (“You already know the answer to that.”), Stewart, because what happens is up to us, not up to the domestic enemies and traitors serving within our governments. It is NOT up to them, they broke, and keep breaking the contract PLUS the Oaths they are under. They stand silent while knowingly letting a presidential impersonator “sit” in office as if he was a real US President.

    McCain can be charged by the First Branch of the US government – us; but it will only be recognized if done by someone/group in the “law” community – though that is not how our system is supposed to work.

    Also, is there now enough constitutionally required and trained Militia now to let those that serve within our governments know that they no longer are allowed to unlawfully use other agencies for those *duties constitutionally assigned to the Militia?
    *– Enforcing the US Constitution (supreme LAW of our nation) and each state’s Constitution (highest LAW of each state),
    — Enforcing and keeping the “Laws of the Union” (which are constitutional laws ONLY),
    — Protecting the country against all enemies both domestic and foreign, and
    — “suppressing Insurrections and repelling Invasions”.

    Because then the answer is both McClain, H. Clinton, add Obama, etc to the list can all be held accountable.

    Daniel Webster: “We may be tossed upon an ocean where we can see no land – nor, perhaps, the sun or stars. But there is a chart and a compass for us to study, to consult, and to obey. That chart is the Constitution.”

    *Dr. Vieira said it long ago in his book(s), lectures, etc that we no longer have a “government” because the only people who can serve within it with lawful authority as our representatives to anyone, any where, any nation MUST be constitutional in their actions or they no longer represent us.

    Dr. Vieira says it much better then I can here: “This has nothing to do with personalities or subjective ideas. It’s a matter of what the Constitution provides… The government of the United States has never violated anyone’s constitutional rights…
    The government of the United States will never violate anyone constitutional rights, because it cannot violate anyone’s constitutional rights. The reason for that is: The government of the United States is that set of actions by public officials that are consistent with the Constitution. Outside of its constitutional powers, the government of the United States has no legitimacy. It has no authority; and, it really even has no existence. It is what lawyers call a legal fiction.”

    America is living under a myth, not a lie. What is a myth? Basically it is a fiction or half-truth, especially one that forms part of an ideology.

    JFK also said it pretty well here (though I believe he was talking about secret societies, etc), speaking at Yale University on June 11, 1962: “For the greatest enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.”

    He was murdered for trying to change that myth by starting to dump the CIA, hold the FBI accountable, printing/printed money backed by gold and silver, dumping the Federal Reserve (list below of what he was trying to do for those that are interested), and then the MYTH of the super powerful one bullet that can swerve all over and up and down within one body and then travel into another human was created. What was sickening is that everyone let our US President be murdered and treasonous scum tell us what to think and believe about it – it doesn’t matter if they liked him or not, if they voted for him or not, it was the PEOPLE”S duty to not let those who serve within our governments lie to the people. They have done it ever since. Was he perfect – heck no, but was he tons better then ANY we have had since he was murdered? Oh yeah.

    Basically our choice is to enforce the constitution against the domestic enemies and traitors to our nation or roll over like a scared puppy and wet ourselves. It has to be done constitutionally because they are going to want to bring in the UN military (yeah, including our own sons/daughters/mothers/fathers/brothers/sisters/etc) to use against us and we must always be able to point to the US Constitution which is in writing and IS our legitimate government.

    John F Kennedy – for all his faults, he had the right idea about America, and compared to the Bush’s, Clinton’s, Obama, McClain, (Openly admitting their TREASON on the senate floor) Panetta & Dempsey, etc,etc, etc JFK was a fricken angel. When you read the list, knowing what we do know today – and we know little, it is no surprise he was murdered.

    – He was one of the few who served as a US President that NEVER attended a Bilderberg meeting
    – He was (almost) the only person to serve as a US President that was NOT either related to numerous other presidents, or to British royal family as is most often the case, or both
    – He was a genuine war hero – NOT like Traitor McClain
    – The Military Industrial Complex distrusted him as he did not swear to join them in their pursuits of UNLAWFUL wars, and he rejected every overture toward war they made to him
    – He refused to invade Cuba
    – He was seeking detente with Russia
    – He was pulling all troops out of Vietnam (by 1965 as final exit date – ticked off the brass in the Pentagon big time)
    – He was an intellectual, plus an accomplished author WHO WROTE MOST OF HIS OWN most memorable speeches (instead of reading what they are told to say)
    – Nor was he a part of the New York establishment
    – He was pretty much the only US President that was not “in bed with” the financial and legal community
    – He was the first and only US president who tried to rein in organized crime – which was funny considering how much his father was “friends” with them – they would/did take it badly
    – He hated and was hated by the CIA, and he was disbanding that agency for its unAmerican activities
    – He was against Israel getting and/or developing nukes, being on our dole
    – Congress passed the test ban treaty a bit before he was assassinated
    – Big business, particularly large Oil companies hated him. He stood up to US Steel, and was attempting to stop the long standing depletion allowance (corporate welfare)
    – He understood the Federal Reserve, what it was, what it was doing to America and was ending it for good.
    – JFK issued *Executive Order 11110, returning to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve
    – The order gave the Treasury the power “to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury”
    – Supposedly, though now hidden, Executive Order 11110 was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid today. (can this be used by OK, etc for creating valid $$)
    – He re-established the dollar backed by silver and gold (which when Johnson came in was immediately abolished and the newly minted real money confiscated
    – He did not believe in secret societies, or secrecy in government (as the Constitution requires openness in our government)
    – JFK stood for openness and the free flow of information
    – He promoted the civil rights movement
    – The 1st US President to refuse taking a salary
    – First Catholic to be a US President
    — 18 material witnesses died within three years of the JFK assassination, which the odds were put as 1 in 100,000 TRILLION and this was not including Oswald, Ruby, and at least 20 others
    —- Understand that his body was stolen and illegally transported by the Secret Service – when the Dallas police had legal jurisdiction (assassination was not a federal crime at that time, and constitutionally it still isn’t under federal jurisdiction).

    We are still lying down and not demanding, as is our lawful right, all and any information pertaining to his Murder, Ruby Ridge, OK bombings, Waco, 9/11, various other murders of those defending the US Constitution, etc etc.

    So if we actually start doing as our US Constitution says, and we make our elections honest, whoever goes into office needs EVERYONE replaced down to the floor cleaners or they too will be murdered. But look at the good side, jobs will be provided, even though a lot of gov jobs would be lost by the dismantlement of ALL unconstitutional agencies.

    Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation and the ramifications of this bill was that President Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificates had been put into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes, eliminating the Federal reserve without destroying our nation. When one understands that his actions listed was challenging the “government controlled by money when he challenged the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt – war (always ued throughout history) and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank (relatively new concept compared to war). His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 11110 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the Federal Reserve/New York banking establishment that has been working to bring the USA and the American people to their knees – where we basically are today.

    *Executive Order 11110 – Amendment of Executive Order No. 10289 as Amended, Relating to the Performance of Certain Functions Affecting the Department of the Treasury
    June 4, 1963
    By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:

    SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended —

    (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):

    “(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption,” and

    (b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.

    SEC. 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.

    JOHN F. KENNEDY
    THE WHITE HOUSE,
    June 4, 1963

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 17:22

      Cal, you are preaching to the choir, when addressing me or other Oath Keepers on this. You do know that, don’t you? And the first step for us is to try him in the court of public opinion, which is what we are doing right now. I am in fact making the same point you are – the corrupt regime, the “shadow government” that all these traitors are beholden to, will not hold them accountable, and neither will any branch of the Federal Government, which that shadow government has captured lock, stock, and barrel. It will indeed have to be “We the People” who hold them all accountable. And we shall. But we will need to build up a critical mass of outrage and resolve among the people to get that done. That is the stage we are in right now. Make the most of it.

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      • Cal6 August, 2016, 07:31

        Yeah, and it got you back “in the saddle” again. You were sounding overwhelmed – which we all get.

        I admit to preaching to the choir /smile

        We can get through this Stewart. OK is doing great work opening the minds of the serving and LE’s. I do most of my work with the common people, and those that immigrated here because the immigrants – those that came here lawfully – are a weak point. That is why those that serve within our governments put everything into different languages not just English. That is why keeping their “traditions” are heavily encouraged and supported – financially not just politically. They, too, must understand that everything now given to them (and not saying all immigrants do not work, as that would be a lie), but even when they work much is given to them.

        This political year they have people who speak the language of the person they care calling and telling them in their own language who to vote for, how to do it. Found that out by accident, but is a good strategy and possibly legal. Not sure if they have done this before, but it is really organized and persistent.

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  6. 1860RidesAgain5 August, 2016, 17:17

    I had a friend, a good friend, Ted Sampley is his name, from Kinston, NC. He ran the the Last Firebase in DC, had a house in the city for vets down on their luck, and was the moving force behind The US Veteran Dispatch until his untimely death a few years ago. Ted called McCain the ‘Manchurian Candidate’ and ‘PW Songbird’ and most ignored him…some of us didn’t.

    Ted was VN first tour 173rd AB, second tour GB after coming home and handling SF school, foremost he was all American. The kind of man you would follow to the gates of hell, the kind of man this country so desperately needs in this hour. We miss you brother, sometimes lost without you but this one is for you and Ted Guy: You had it right all along.

    Thanks Stewart, this posting means a ton.

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 17:39

      There you go. Ted was right, and since he is now dead, we WILL speak for him. McCain should do something actually honorable, for once since he threw away his integrity in 1969, and just resign. But again, we can’t expect honor from the dishonorable.

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  7. ED ORR5 August, 2016, 17:19

    There is a little known procedure in the UCMJ where a former military person can be returned to active duty and court-martialed . John McCain meets and exceeded the requirements. I learned about this from Admiral Elmo Zumwalt who I contacted seeking help to expose another phony hero cleaning 11 purple hearts and several Navy Crosses…al BOGUS. It CAN be done!

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  8. Mike Murray5 August, 2016, 17:25

    I can’t stand McCain’s politics, but it’s to easy to condemn his actions in captivity from a safe place 40+ years later. If he lied about it, that’s one thing, but no man can know how he would react under those conditions. If you ain’t been there, shut up.

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 17:36

      Bull. Every service member is instructed that they are NOT to aid the enemy in such a way, and many of the men who were there in fact refused to do what McCain did. They did not roll over and turn “songbird.” And they were tortured because they refused. One of them was James Stockdale.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stockdale. Now there was a REAL POW hero. He was tortured many times for standing up for his men and refusing to bend and do what McCain did.

      And don’t tell me that “no man can know how he would react under those conditions.” Plenty of Americans knew exactly how they would react, and followed through, with honor, on their convictions, on their orders, and on their training and refused to collaborate. So, no, he doesn’t get a pass. And no, I will not shut up. Do we have to bring out some POW who has been there, to say the same damn thing I have said for years? The man is a traitor, and a liar, and a fake hero.

      And even if you still insist on giving him a pass for collaborating with the enemy (for which he could have been tried by military tribunal – if his Daddy wasn’t an Admiral), even you admit that his lying about it, and denying it, and building a political career on that lie, and on that shameful cowardice, is itself inexcusable. Or are you going to say that unless and until I am a politician I can’t say what I would do under the same circumstances?

      That logic – that “no man can know how he would react under those conditions”can be used to excuse all manner of immoral, dishonorable, and criminal acts. No doubt the Nazis tried at Nuremburg thought the same thing. But they were wrong too. People must be held accountable for their dishonor and for their treason, and they don’t get a pass, and we don’t have to be POWs to say so.

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      • Ed5 August, 2016, 17:57

        I appreciate your service Mr. Rhodes, AND number of years spent by Stewart Rhodes as a prisoner of war : zero

        Number of minutes Stewart Rhodes has been a POW: zero

        Amount of actual torture Stewart Rhodes has had in his life : none

        There are people with a frame of reference to judge John McCains actions as a prisoner, AND Stewart Rhodes is not one of them.

        Feel free to tell us all about the rigors of law school.

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        • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 19:55

          Well, many of the POW survivors who did call out McCain are now dead. So, they can’t speak anymore, now that they have been proven right and vindicated. So, we will speak for them.

          While they were alive, the liar McCain called THEM liars, and they were vilified by the media. Now the truth is out.

          So, no, I will not shut up. But hey, I now invite all the former POWs to come here and tell us what they think of McCain. When they do, I’ll gladly sit back down and let them have the floor.

          And since you want to make it personal with me – long, long before I went to law school, I served as a US Army paratrooper, and I nearly died twice while in service, the last time being a nasty parachuting accident on a night jump that broke my back. I spent six months in a body cast. So please don’t talk down to me like I’m some pampered law student who never put himself at risk. I have a right to speak out like any other veteran who served honorably under the Code of Conduct. This snake, who did not, and then went on to falsify himself, and lie about his service, and lie about good men who called him out, deserves zero respect. He was a pampered admiral’s son who got preferential, pampered treatment by the enemy in exchange for his collaboration.

          I wish Admiral Stockdale were still alive so he could come here and comment.

          But let’s see what the actual POWs who still are alive have to say, shall we?

          Stewart

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          • Ed6 August, 2016, 04:07

            Knowing POWs does not give you license to speak for all of them. It is fair bet that not all POWs would agree on this. What I find galling is that a guy who saw zero combat is willing to make blanket judgements on other vets who did. Way to be a brother. Clearly you wish you had been a war hero. Perhaps you had it in you. But you are not a war hero. It did not turn out that way. I still appreciate your service, tearing down the obvious patriotism of others makes you less of a man, not more of one. You can hate McCains politics, he fought to give you that option, but his service record is far beyond yours. Have some respect.

        • Cal6 August, 2016, 07:42

          @ Ed,

          What are your frames of reference that lets you talk that way to Stewart? Been a POW? Been in the US military? Serving now within our government as a shill? Trying to drive a wedge here and take the attention away from TRAITOR McCain?

          What have you been doing to stop the domestic enemies here at home? Teaching the military and LE’s, etc about what that Oath means? Assisting in making sure that any lawful person residing here in the US is safe in the coming disaster (whatever it will be)? Doing anything to make your neighborhood safer? Your town/city? What about your county? Doing anything about our fraudulent elections? ETC.

          If you are one of the paid government shills here commenting, understand that working against our legitimate government is treason. If you are not a shill, why did you not bother to do the research on Stewart before commenting? You do not have to agree with him, heck, we bump heads every so often – but here, unless you have the experience or knowledge don’t you attack him and his values because I will stand for him in any way I have to.

          So to say it not so nicely and definitely not PC, shut up.

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    • Joseph C. Moore, USN Ret.5 August, 2016, 17:42

      Mike, you are correct. People should concentrate on his abominable record while in congress.

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      • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 18:27

        And I actually agree with that. Last year, when I called McCain out as a traitor and said he should be tried for treason, and if convicted, should suffer the usual sentence, I was talking about his support for, and sponsorship of the military detention and military trial provisions in the NDAA of 2012, which apply to American citizens as well as foreigners. That was my focus. But obviously he got away with that treason (so far) so I’ll take what I can get.

        And collaborating with the enemy is a violation of the UCMJ and is a very serious offense, and a direct violation of the Code of Conduct:

        Code of Conduct for Members of the United States Armed Forces[3][4][5]

        I. I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.
        II. I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.
        III. If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.
        IV. If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.
        V. When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause
        VI. I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.

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  9. Ed5 August, 2016, 17:34

    You guys are just awful human beings. Even if this recording is authentic, and that has been by no means established, does it make McCain a traitor? He was captured fighting for this country. He stayed with his men when he might have been released. Those are facts. If, and it is still an if, if he broke down and made a recording, after God only knows what torture, that does not make him a traitor in my eyes. If you guys feel comfortable judging what POWs do to survive, well then good luck with your high and mighty attitudes. My guess is your creator will take a dim view of your position. My guess is zero of you have been a POW for years. You are not the sole arbiters of heroism. You sound like a pack of wannabes, thrilled that somebody so much higher than you on the totem pole might have fallen a bit.

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  10. Joseph C. Moore-USN Ret.5 August, 2016, 17:39

    While McCain has certainly been no constitutional conservative in congress, you have to realize that incarceration of officers in the Vietnam prison was brutal. Officers were tortured more than enlisted as they supposedly had more to reveal than low level soldiers and sailors. I defy you to spend 6 years under such brutal conditions and not have severe mental stress to the breaking point. Those recordings were scripted by the North Vietnamese and should be taken by the receiving public as meaningless. McCain’s ignoble, constitution ignoring while in congress presents another matter, but leftists kept re-electing him. I do not know him personally but can certainly feel sympathy for his failings under the years of incarceration/mistreatment by the North Vietnamese. I have NO sympathy for his leftist role as a so-called Republican in congress and he should have been replaced years ago.

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    • StormN15 August, 2016, 18:25

      I agree with this post. I’m from Arizona for which McCain is Senator. He had such a bad temper that diplomatic then-governor Rose Mofford had to finally say something in public about his behavior to her staff. Then when I finally realized he was a silver-spoon-fed RINO he literally went from hero to zero for me. What a disappointment! BUT . . .

      Have you noticed how he always has a pen in his hand. He can’t raise his arms above his head because his jailers left his arms broken for all those years. So when I read that he states that he is being well-treated medically by his captors I believe it is under duress. Until I see more prove of otherwise, I can’t believe otherwise. He’s using crutches in the photo – was that to support his upper body or was there also something wrong with his legs? He has been unwavering against any form of torture, waterboarding, etc. – I expect because he experienced plenty of it first hand. I’m over 60 years old and I vaguely remember hearing/reading that he turned down the opportunity to come home – reportedly he was offered that opportunity by his captors because they figured out he was the son of an admiral. So I don’t think he’s a coward – just a spoiled, rich brat. That Stewart feels so strongly about this does give me pause for thought. I expect that will motivate me to sooner rather than later read up on more of this.

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      • 1860RidesAgain5 August, 2016, 20:14

        I also am in AZ, and though I think I can handle anything, I don’t know how I would respond to torture (things keep going the way they are here we may someday be able to answer exactly, through trial). I am also over 60…and an OK. However, to paraphrase one of the framers of this nation, when choosing men to represent us, we need be mindful of their character; dishonest in one station of life they should be considered unfit in another.

        In 1992, McCain was a member of the Senate Select committee, assembled to provide full and final resolution to the POW/MIA issue, expressly those left behind in Vietnam. Among them were Bob Smith (NH) and Charles Grassley (IA), men who honestly sought to give the family members more than the old ‘Potomac Two Step’. Also among them was John Kerry, you know the one, the poster child of the brown water Navy boys. With whom did McCain ally? Kerry, and they steamrolled every effort of Smith and Grassley to reveal the truth and do something with it. I wrote to McCain, my senator, after the white washing was published to get a copy…no go…I do have a copy though thanks to the Honorable Jesse Helms (NC). You would think that a man who had suffered so much would be at least somewhat considerate of those suffering such unexplained loss. This was more than political posturing.

        Also, he is known to have been a major supporter of Clinton’s lifting of the trade embargo. The man went so far as to embrace former NV Colonel Bui Tin, a man in part responsible for the treatment – and deaths – of our POW’s. As Ted Sampley asked, “Why would he [of all people] do this?” Ted Guy never did. Swede Larson never did. And neither would you or I most likely.

        Based on these actions, and others since his term of capture, are what make the man unworthy of public office. No one has tortured him since he has been in office, he has betrayed this oath much easier and left the rest of us hurting in the wake.

        Swede Larson once said that McCain probably didn’t give them (his captors) anymore than they already knew. Men Like Nick Rowe and Rocky Versace gave them nothing. What kind of men do we want to lead us?

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      • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 22:30

        Well, I do admit that I find McCain utterly despicable, so perhaps that is clouding my judgment of his actions while a POW – but it seems to me he never fully confessed all that he did as a collaborator. For instance, I do not know of any instance where he admitted making this recording. All I can find is an admission that he gave up some military information in exchange for better medical treatment, and also a reference by another POW that supported his campaign that said McCain did sign a confession, but supposedly intentionally inserted mispellings and obvious communist phrases so the other prisoners would know it was done under duress, but no mention of this broadcast, and those same friends of McCain, along with McCain himself, attacked anyone who did mention this broadcast. See this article from back in 2008, claiming that there is no evidence he was a collaborator:

        http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jan/17/vietnam-veterans-against-john-mccain/no-evidence-mccain-was-a-traitor/

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    • Stewart Rhodes Author5 August, 2016, 20:02

      And yet, Stockdale and many other officers DID stand firm and endured torture, denial of medical care, denial of food, solitary confinement, and some of them even died in captivity because of their refusal to collaborate. They set the example, and their example gave their men the courage and the resolve to not give up. They were an inspiration to their men. McCain? Not so much.

      But I do agree with you that his record in Congress is the real, entirely unmitigated treason. But he never would have served a day in office if he had not also been a liar as well as a collaborator, and if his Daddy had not been an Admiral. So, his treason against the Constitution while in office was only possible because of his false hero status.

      Stewart

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  11. Doc5 August, 2016, 17:50

    Stewart, I never, for one second, thought you were lying about this miscreant. I have always had a gut feelin he was a traitor. Regardless, the truth is out. The only two things left to do is watch him squirm and loose an election. I can’t say I won’t enjoy that.

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  12. Fred5 August, 2016, 17:57

    Wow, he certainly exposed every charge against himself, in order, right down the list, word for word. Seems very precise, bizarrely perfect in fact. I await confirmation of the facts. Not saying it’s a fake, just wow.

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  13. LoneStarHog5 August, 2016, 18:35

    DAMN! I have desperately been attempting to contact the Trump Campaign. The only thing possible was to leave a phone message a couple of hours ago. Trump is presently having a rally in Green Bay, WI. Sure enough, he just endorsed Paul Ryan and JOHN MCCAIN, making glowing remarks about McCain being a HERO, HONORABLE, and blah, blah, blah.

    I sent this to The Drudge Report, InfoWars, ZeroHedge, et al. What now, Donald, if all this news BREAKS and your butt is exposed because NO ONE WAS ABLE TO CONTACT YOU?????

    Frustrated In Texas,

    LoneStarHog (Hog)
    Texas Life Member #140

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    • Elias Alias5 August, 2016, 19:17

      Yeah, and just fyi, I’ve not forgotten about the article you sent me last week.

      Don’t let the bastards wear you down, Hog. Hell, Bro, we’re in this for the long haul. Trump, btw, has flirted with the damned CFR and has also flirted with the cover-up specialist, Rudy Giuliani. He is also friendly with the military-industrial complex neo-con war hawks from WDC and Wall Street. We are never going to see a perfect candidate I suppose, so, personally, I’m done with looking for any sign of hope from within that cursed beltway. Trump ain’t God, and neither is any other mortal servant of statism who may grace the people’s highest governmental seat. We the people are going to have to reclaim our communities to protect our way of life, and that is what the machine McCain works for considers to be “terrorism”.
      The wreckage of the corrupt, sinful, criminal war-crime called the Viet Nam War continues to mar our self-image as a nation, and McCain’s demise over this could be a start for cleaning up a lot of old unfinished business, a task with which we citizens are a bit tardy in addressing. Just don’t worry about Trump (or Hitlery). Both of them are statists, believing in the power of government to structure, organize, control, prescribe, identify, catalogue, surveil, limit, license, permit, tax, and, if faced with our non-compliance or dissent, will demonize us and use deadly force to keep the people in line. (We notice that every damned federal agency now has a SWAT team, including the Department of Education.) McCain has helped build momentum in that evolving militarization of the way government administers itself outward from WDC to the people.
      But I ramble. Thanks Hog.
      Salute!
      Elias Alias, editor

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  14. 5WarVeteran5 August, 2016, 19:18

    I never forgot what he did. I have been attacked and derided over the years. This is also why I have been saying I expect Bowe Bergdahl to run for the presidency in the future…

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  15. WGP5 August, 2016, 19:29

  16. happyjack5 August, 2016, 19:32

    He should be stripped of all medals etc. taken over to middle east and let ISIS have him.
    What a disgusting joke!

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  17. Jim5 August, 2016, 21:35

    There was an article and interview about him in the 1973 U.S. News and world report where he stated he “gave military information in exchange for medical treatment”, I looked it up on microfiche at the local university library some years ago, thanks to the tip from Bo Gritz.

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  18. Charles Martel5 August, 2016, 23:34

    For a long time I believed the story of McCain’s “heroic resistance” to the North Vietnamese Communists while in captivity, and wondered why he would not resist the domestic Communists in Congress or the White House — Now I know. In all fairness, I could see how someone in that situation could succumb to the pressure to read a script obviously written in imperfect English by his North Vietnamese captors, but there’s obviously more to the story here. I’d really like to know more about what his fellow prisoners have to say about his conduct there.

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  19. sjrlady6 August, 2016, 03:45

    John McCain and the POW Cover-Up
    The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.
    Sydney Schanberg • The American Conservative
    • May 25, 2010
    • 8,100 Words

    http://www.unz.com/article/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

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  20. WoJoe6 August, 2016, 05:21

    Being a Vietnam Vet, I too have seen McCain as a traitor who has bullied his way through the political scene. He has also been disrespectful to the members who have fought for the POW/MIA issue. However, as much as I have disdain for McCain, he actually spoke the truth though, at the time, he was using it to his advantage. I say he spoke truth in that we, as the private, corporate entity known as, and doing business as the United States of America, Inc. that now poses as our lawful government did commit atrocities on our own soldiers and those innocent people of Vietnam when we invaded Vietnam over a false flag event known as the ‘Gulf of Tonkin’ incident that was a total fabricated lie. Again, McCain, acting in his own interest, caused much damage to other vets and his country, we, as a people, need to awaken to the fact that we have a corporate entity posing as our lawful government and take action to correct this clear and present danger to our country.

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  21. flinter6 August, 2016, 08:32

    I never could stand Mcain. I always considered him to be just another pompous warmonger. It is truly unfortunate that nothing will ever happen to him for the crimes he has committed. He will skate away scott free just like Hillary and all the rest. Given the total dumbass mentality of the people these days, He will no doubt get reelected too. I wouldn’t get too excited about having him tried for treason. It will never happen in his lifetime.

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  22. Obbop6 August, 2016, 08:37

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=22879150

    Cole Black, XO of USS New Orleans LPH 11. Interacted with him while aboard in 1976-77. You could still see the scars from his experiences. Tough hombre. Had to respect him. Rest in peace, Sir.

    Ignoring the multitude of individual actions of that ‘Nam fray and mentally referring to the dozens of non-fiction works read over the decades trying to understand all aspects of the Vietnam Conflict I feel confident in expressing a very general statement: Vietnam, the war the USA should never have been involved in.

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